So why such hatred for Heard? "I thought Amber Heard testified as well as she could," said Grant. 483623. Not convinced at all, I have no idea whats going on (I know they are in court) can someone explain all this to me?! While Heard, on the stand, explained how she learned to cover up her bruises Day two for me was always the trickiest; thats when you get the most sensitivity . Hes radioactive, one studio head told THR. ", I have been told abusers stare at victims in court. We almost always want to believe the man, the more powerful and dominant one. I believed him last week but my god he was so melodramatic. I suppose my real question is, are they saying she did it intentionally? Point is, he was trying to avoid physical fights, not promote them. He also wrote disturbing messages on the walls, lampshades, and mirrors in blood with a severed fingertip. Oh yeah, tons of people are defending her. But even the less aggressively Depp-pilled of us want to believe that the Caribbean pirate is blamelessif not squeaky clean then at least under the duress of drug addiction or acting out of character; that his violence can be somewhat explained away by a lapse of judgment or circumstance or both. But shouldnt we have just believed her in the first place. That complicates things. I found him *somewhat* believable and I find her believable. Amber is obviously lying but a lot of people are saying that when you're traumatized you remember every detail and her inconsistency proves it didn't happen. Anyways, maybe he was driven to react that way after being abused. To revist this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. In this message where he admits to cutting his own finger he trashes AH and accuses her of things. In my experience that's not really how memory and PTSD works (I remember things happening but not specific details if that makes sense). As we hear testimony that his drug and alcohol abuse has rendered him incontinent and uninsurable. the discovery that came out in that trial alone would be enough to scare away any studio., I use him as the model for telling my clients what not to do, a top crisis manager told the magazine. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Thanks for contacting us. Does it mean shes lying about Depps abuse? However the cavity search? Depp had to reveal a lot of things about himself that hes been trying to hide for a long time, she said. Lawrence said Heards first day of testimony sounded rehearsed. Yet the prevailing narrative, still, is that this trial is rehabbing Depps image, saving his career, and vindicating his reputation. Others believe that even if a romantic relationship between Jason Momoa and Amber Heard hasnt developed, at least not yet, that Lisa Bonet mightve wanted a divorce simply because Momoa didnt stand up for Johnny Depp. It seemed like it was all bad and the kids didnt want to be a part of it from the start. Too many people are using this trial to air out their sexism, misogyny, and homo/transphobia which is not okay. Amber story doesnt make sense?? Based on what I've seen of the trial, I think Amber Heard is very much the aggressor. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. I think theyre both deranged liars. Or indeed women. I believe both of them are believable and unbelievable but I dont not believe her at all. Especially after being arrested for domestic abuse with her wife a few years back. If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. So he testified that after he severed a finger to the bone (she says he did it, he says she did it) and with blood from the severed finger he wrote messages on walls, mirrors and lampshades. Amber Heard has been found guilty on one charge. Hes an addict, theyre both inebriated. if you read my response Im not a die hard fan. Why do people believe him? It hurts SA victims with PTSD that actually struggle with memory (both amber and her reactionaries). Depp sued his ex-wife Heard for libel in Fairfax County Circuit Court after she wrote an op-ed piece in "The Washington Post" in 2018 referring to herself as a "public figure representing domestic abuse.". Its recently been announced that actor Jason Momoa has ended his marriage with Lisa Bonet. ", 'If you think somebody is ahead right now, that could change. Im sure he probably was abusive in some way by being reactive. They would either continue being silent or speak out in support of Heard. Shes far more concise and believable than he was (imo). Just Ambers word and a photo of her with a pimple. the bruises? Again, not getting into either of their respective guilt or innocence here but I do think there is worthwhile evidence in this case to examine from both parties. At this point i wonder if her name is even amber, Shes probably gonna dye her hair brown and call herself Johnny soon with all that copying of outfits . But I mean, calm down Johnny. hammering Heard over her promise to donate her divorce settlement to charities, donations not yet fulfilled. Apparently, a guy hitting his wife is super hard to believe. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. We want to believe the mysterious good looking man who is largely considered the master of his craft. And if after everything that has been presented in this trial (not to mention the UK trial where JD lost as the judge found that he was the abuser in that relationship - about 130 pages of court decision with evidences presented are available online), then yes I think that about everyone who supports him and also everyone who goes with well both of them abused narrative. Amber Heard at the Depp v. Heard defamation trial in Fairfax, Virginia, on April 28. Sometimes I wonder if Im watching clips from a different trial than everyone else, because from what Ive seen, both of these people seem toxic AF. You wouldnt want to hire an actor who has negativity following them especially in the last five years, with the Me Too movement.. [Joel Mandel, one of the managers,] was informed well after the fact through communications with various house staff and security that Depp had been extremely volatile and had sometimes gotten physical with Heard. pic.twitter.com/9N6nIctkD0, Winkie! The latest fashion news, beauty coverage, celebrity style, fashion week updates, culture reviews, and videos on Vogue.com. "It changed my life.". Of course not. Shes focusing on all of it. I think she has a mental disorder thats the only break I think I can give her in this case. You can change your settings or. All things that are equally horrible and disturbing. Still would be considered SA though. As he smirks and laughs as Heard testifies to horrific abuse, to Depp forcibly searching her vagina for cocaine and, in another incident, raping her with a liquor bottle. Amber Heard did everything she was "supposed" to do. PH: (01) 6489130, Lo-Call 1890 208 080 or email: info@presscouncil.ie. Lawrence said the real test will come when Amber Heard faces cross-examination. Listen to women, believe women and stop letting powerful men away with this behaviour. "I will never forget it," she said. Social media: Before Amber Heard took the stand, Johnny Depp had already won We want to believe the highest paid actor of all time. Feel like Amber really hurt the bi community in more ways than one (which i understand is small issue in comparison). The turd curse has struck again! In an emergency, call 000. Richard Marks says 'family-friendly companies like Disney' are the 'pinnacle' of . Consider that a majority male jury convicted Harvey Weinstein. It seems like she was trying to remember, They told me to say eggshells.. We are so proud of you for being able to get through her testimony. Heard has counter-sued for $100 million for nuisance, with her attorneys arguing that the op-ed was a matter of public interest. Maybe because the Internet has decided that Depp has already won this trial. Heard accused Depp of domestic abuse during their divorce proceedings in 2016. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Richard Marks says family-friendly companies like Disney are the pinnacle of sensitivity, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Watch live as Johnny Depps trial against Amber Heard continues. This is not true. was testifying, I overheard a lot of people snickering, making snide comments, and laughing . "Just because #JohnnyDepp keeps his head down doesn't make him innocent!" Talk about mockery. Legal documents obtained by People Magazine show that Depps former managers at TMG were aware of the actor having gotten physical with Amber Heard. He added that companies are looking for added value, not negativity, noting that a film star becomes the face of a franchise they appear in. . We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. She was celebrating her birthday with a bunch of friends, Im sure they were all wasted. MermaidsHaveCloacas 6 mo. Even if its aggressive or violent. I want to believe that some of us are offline and mildly compassionate or compassionate in a way that doesnt get tweeted aboutthat youre all out there being nice to each other and Im reporting on a tiny cluster of internet users with pitchforks. But, I acknowledge that Heard's allegations are possible. The 2018 article does not mention Depp by name. The actor first looked to be wearing sunglasses and kept his eyes on the table in front of him, avoiding watching Heard. Johnny Depp is seeking damages of $50 million after Amber Heard wrote an op-ed for The Washington Post in 2018 in which she spoke of being a victim of domestic abuse (without ever explicitly naming Depp). I dont want to despair for humanity. the evidence points to her being a fat liar. What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. I do. Journal Media does not control and is not responsible I didn't think anyone would believe me. We free each other -to be who we are learning to become. They end it with J & L. After the statement comes a number of photos, including one of an early evening sky, and one of someone holding a bird while wearing a shirt that says May my soul shout love.'. . Reading about Amber Heard on TMZ, this is what jumps out at me: "Victim" "Allegedly" Heard is being systematically jeered at and ridiculed like a medieval criminal in the stocks as she catalogs historic abuse, as she alleges rape. ! pic.twitter.com/EsRFT4PA2M, Jen (@No_Reason_Jenz) January 13, 2022. There are no perfect victims. There are factors that point to a power dynamic that would lend to abuse on his part. When he ran out of blood, apparently he also dipped the severed finger in paint to continue writing. Media organisations even resorted to digging up photos of her smiling in an attempt to prove that she couldnt possible have been abused. But I never called. Both have stated that they dont believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore its their own fault if they are harmed by their victim. Both have also said that even if Amber is lying, anyone who supports Depp is a misogynist. I agree I think shes very much so the aggressor as well. Depp has taken Heard to trial, accusing her of defaming him with domestic-violence allegations. Jason Momoa & Lisa Bonnet are divorcing. Regarding the SA: I dont believe the bottle incident, that doesnt make sense at all. Either Pennington wasn't there at all and is lying, or Heard is completely making up the part about Johnny grabbing a woman by the wrist and threatening to snap it. You can obtain a copy of the Also his texts where he uses vulgar words regarding his ex Vanessa, the mother of his children, were shown in the court as well. Thats not to say shes not awful, but I believe her story. all for camera. Fighting for Heard is going to set back feminism just as much as this case already has, I guarantee you. So mutually abusive can include physical vs verbal abuse (they do not have to be the same type of abuse). gorgossia . And he used to be in my top 5 actors I would have loved to ***. While Heard didn't name Depp in the article, his lawyers have argued that it was obvious she was referring to the actor. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. And I honestly cant be bothered with any of this and choosing sides. Its not an excuse for shitting in someones bed, but him being an addict at the time doesnt excuse his behaviour either. Ive ranted about people before to my friends but Im not abusive. They both sucked. that was weird now that I think about it lol, was she wasted? But considering the crazy sequence of events that have led us to this point, anything really is possible. I dont understand how anyone can support either of these people. He told the court that he was brought in to look at how the op-ed may have damaged Mr Depps reputation. An American psychologist has revealed in a no-holds-barred interview why she doesn't believe Amber Heard's court testimony. including someone who is wearing the rings Johnny wears they would cause marks & both have testified he wore them all the time, except the images of her face and bruises do not measure up one bit to being repeatedly hit and choked by a man larger than her. I struggle to find the words to describe how painful this is, she said, PEOPLE reports. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. I just truly dont believe that he cut his own finger. idk. Over 3 million people read Morning Brew ; you should too! I agree we are conditioned to believe her not him. If anything we have been conditioned by society to believe her and not him. Okay, I was just answering the question you asked. And why has the judge not rebuked Depps demeanor? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. All rights reserved. 'Amber Heard has testified in the dramatic defamation trial between her ex-husband Johnny Depp. Now Depps former business managers are alleging that the actor did indeed get violent with Heard. And Ive been angry before but thats not angry thats insanity. So he wrote a message saying such vile and disgusting things about her, just so he can in the same message protect her by saying he cut his own finger. I just listened to a few mins. But the truth is, neither one of them is acting. Yes. You simply cant work with him now., This wasnt just down to his anger, the magazine said, but Depps unquenchable thirst for revenge., Another studio head called Depp a huge liability . He was telling us things you could see he wasnt very happy to be talking about - but he was talking about it. As has Chris Rock, who said onstage last week that yes, we should "believe all women, just not Amber Heard." Wow.. Amber struggles with mental health issues and Johnny with substance abuse. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. All too often, allegations of domestic violence and sexual assault are met with scepticism and suspicion. His 15 year live-in girlfriend and mother to his children as well as Wynonna Ryder (dated 4 years) have come out in his defense. I dont think it was as violent as she describes, but I can also see it happening with different details. 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