How does yours shoot, I would love to see one of the targets. Unusual calibers, 25" bbls under is chambered for Sauer rimmed ctg mfg by RWS, 20 pieces of brass and n, GERMAN DRILLING 16GA - 9.3X72R BACK ACTION HAMMER GUN, 95% KRUPP STEEL BARRELS, NICE BORES WITH A LITTLE PITTING TOWARD THE BACK, SILVER RECEIVER WITH SOME LIGHT SCROLL , GOOD SOLID WOOD, CHEC, "German Guild Schutzen 7.6mm caliber rifle. by Ysabel Kid Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:53 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. This German Schuetzen rifle sold for $5,500 at a 2005 auction. mr1540 very interesting austrian percussion zimmer schuetzen rifle [a] $ 875.00; mr1327 very fine cased sxs rifle/shotgun by john donaghy [a] $ Buy Antique JOHN WURFFLEIN .415 Caliber Percussion TARGET Rifle Schuetzen Phila: GunBroker is the largest seller of Antique Guns Collectible Firearms All: 972355921 . condition except checkered PG stock was shortened then length, #384A AYDT ENGRAVED GERMAN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 8:15 X 46, 32" fluted oct. matted bbl., inlayed in silver on top of receiver "H. Speeman Neuss", detachable DST assembly, sling swivels, Schu, #366A SIMON HEIM ENGRAVED GERMAN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 8:15 X 46, rare Gouda Percha engraved palm rest attached to forward part of lever, never saw this before, left side of receiver engraved with a man si, #1101A UNKNOWN PERCUSSION DRILLING, 16X16X32, 32 bbls., possibly made by Nathaniel Choate, very unusual side by side 16 ga. bbl. Load the ammunition into the magazine, if applicable, or directly into the chamber of the weapon. The accuracy of these rifles and the shooting done with them was truly remarkable. It is too bad you are not in the Minneapolis area our club has USPSA and IDPA matchs plus a few Scheutzen guys who are willing to help. Doing so will cause the petal crimped shells to open into the bore and the shot and wad column has to be squeezed through the tightened neck of the shell, spiking . Karabiner 22 Single Shot Rifle. The story I heard was that many of these were WWII bring-backs and often missing a part -- typically the rear aperture sight, but sometimes a key part in the firing mechanism to make the gun non-firing. Trap ranges will be at Member cost. Accessories: Sight Barrel Length: 32 - 1/2" Caliber/Bore: 8.15x54R FFL Status: Curio & Relic Manufacturer: Otto Zeitlinger Model: Schuetzen Serial . My now deceased shooting buddy had a Martini Schuetzen very similar to yours and I had one on the big falling block style action . Your email address will not be published. From the mark on the barrel, the bore diameter is 7.7mm. Founded in 1964, Oakdale Gun Club is a member-owned and operated non-profit corporation dedicated to promoting the shooting sports, improving public safety, and providing our members and the surrounding community with a safe, supervised, and well-maintained place to practice the shooting sports. by KWK Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:03 pm, Post We will contact you to confirm options and pricing for your rifle. Description: Model Schuetzen Condition Used- Fair Caliber Aprox. JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. The following article written by Axel Eichendorff appeared in the Spring 2017 (issue #60) of the German Gun Collectors Association publication. Some Eagle targets often had and have a total height of approximetely 12 to 14 feet and a wing span of 8 to 10 feet. BP-SCH-90-B Schuetzen Double Ball End Buttplate, wax cast brass. Overall, I'd say that the book is a useful reference is you look at this fine old rifle above and see it as the epitome of sharpshooting beauty. Interpretation- the shooter always saves his good mood- even after shooting a buck. I wouldn't put to much faith in Bertram brass. If the wrong piece drops, the piece falls back to the treasury. by Bill in Oregon Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:40 am, Post The engraving and metalwork on this piece is exquisite and that may be the only justification for someone to buy this rifle. The Schuetzen musket caps are very hot, and give you consistent shot groupings. Is this possible. large-caliber weapons has been popular in Germany at least since the second half of the 19th century. The stock was custom configured for someone in the 1920s or 1930s, the rear sight is missing and there are a few chunks of wood missing from the stock. I would not over look the 33-47 it is extremly user friendly and extremly accurate. Kleinkaliberbuchse" Single shot .22 LR with scroll work, Rifle is in like new condition, Metal is original in 95% condition, 219 Zipper. You may have to make or have made the part you need. What is Neues Gewehrpulver M/71 ??? These musket caps are packed in traditional 100-count tins and can be ordered in 500, 1000 or 5000 count. The aluminum part may have just been made as a patern, M. M. Wright, Sheriff, Green county Arkansas (1860). An ethical hunter endeavors to be a good marksman and by that means he is able to make a clean kill on the game he is after. & Mahrholdt, Richard-Innsbruck, Austria. The bullets are usually seated with the base of the bullet at the case mouth as this method gives superior accuracy. Known as Schuetzen rifles, these were named after the German military term of the time basically referring to "snipers". All rights reserved. Harry M. Pope of New Jersey and George Schoyen of Denver, Colorado were considered the finest riflesmiths of the "Schuetzen" era. These competitions were not confined solely to the European Continent but also took place in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th Century. German made single shot target rifle with 25.5"" barrel. has now started collecting tax for states that mandate i, Antique JOHN WURFFLEIN .415 Caliber Percussion TARGET Rifle Schuetzen Phila Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Precision Long Rifle Here we present an antique Wurfflein Half Stock Percussion Target Rifl, RELOADING DIES INCLUDED 176 BULLETS 180 BRASS CASES LOADING DATA  , "Look at how they massacred my boy!" Standard barrel sizes are #2 (1.00"), #2 1/2 (1.03"), #3 (1 1/16"), #4 (1 1/8"), and #5 (1 3/16") in part octagon or round. Original sights consist of a very delicate blade front sight, a fancy rear barrel sight and a unique tang sight. Schuetzen rifles come with either standard scope bases or the Weaver style. Brass - For the cases, had 2 options: reform them from 11mm Lebel or search the Internet for available obsolete brass. Reload ammunition into the chamber or magazine and close the action. Illustrations of Bird shooting with the bow and crossbow, circa 1330. to generate a significant anti-German sentiment. John you can also go with a 35% of the bp charge as maximum for 5744. A Schuetzen is a type of rifle used in European long-range competition. 32-40 is what I think the general consensus will be with the following ( I list an order so others can suggest improvements): What the heck, I'd just paste a copy of that to CPA and start gathering brass and lead. Now we will look at the individual targets with the 10 ring bull first. He is a German sight collector. Have you shot yours yet, what were the results, I'd love to see the targets, Have you shot yours yet, what were the results, I'd love to see the targets. California Rifle & Pistol Association LIFE Member, avatar pic is Shasta Dam, Shasta Lake, & Mt. Other forms of Targets date back to Medievel times. Note- Shooting a buck is a German saying for making a fault, missing a target or doing something stupid. It was made by Franz Neumann, Suhl Germany in 1930. While competitors typically use Ballard, Sharps, Remington rolling-block, or Winchester high- or low-wall rifles or modern-made replicas of these designs modern rifles such as the Ruger No. Matches are held the 2nd Tuesday of each month, from May through September, from 3pm to close, on the west-half of the 100 yard range. In the USA, the UK, Austria and Scandinavia, target shooting was very active, but based on the .22 rim fire cartridge. 47.75"". Look through the sights and ensure the target is in your line of sight. Try changing your search term. Thanks for l, R. Bessel Royal Gunmaker to the Grand Duke of Sachen. Peterlongo Innsbruck"". Bear in mind that this was the heyday of rifle competition and the shooters of the day were as well known as any modern athlete. Full rib with express sight & claw mounts. There are target frames at 50-100-200-300 yd. A flat Bird Target mounted in a horizontal position on a pole that has the blue and white bands. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. They were for amusement and not for showing shooting skill. Based on the cartridge dimensions of the cast, it is a 9.5X47R. If it is a manually operated rifle, open the bolt and insert the ammunition into the chamber and then close the bolt. Driving directions are found elsewhere on this web-site. All rights reserved. The rifle was proofed to fire the load shown, what it performs best with will be for you to determine by trying different makes/types. The clubs quietly stacked arms and disbanded. Made double rifles as well for high ranking customers. Are you sure the chambers are 2-3/4". From 3 different vendors, found the last 80 cases in the US at an average price of $3.90 per cartridge. Very interesting, Id love to make contact with the guy who wrote the Schuetzen article as Ive a few questions Id like to ask him. The rifle is an "unknown" 8mm (for now, but it's most likely an 8.15X46R) with a 30" tapered octagon barrel, no maker's marks on the receiver or barrel anywhere, a heavy checkered Schuetzen buttstock with large cheek rest, Schuetzen buttplate & lever, double-set triggers, original Schuetzen tang sight (with large 2.125" disc), pinhead . Schutzen-style single shot rifle, 26.5" barrel. This is usually done indoors and the subject matter of these targets range from the round 10 ring to many animals and to humorous and risque. Follow through with your trigger press and recock the rifle or reset the safety. Case hardened profusely engraved action with God of the Hunt motif on right side and Goddess of the Hunt on the left with balance engraved with a floral pattern. The CPA Schuetzen rifle is a reproduction of the Stevens 44 1/2 in classic offhand target configuration. The first "Schuetzen" rifles were caplock muzzle loaders that were the direct descendants of the German "Jeager" rifles so popular with the immigrants from that country. Anybody has more info on that ? Remnents of a Poppenjay Bird Target from a 1914 shooting event. The 9.362mm (also known as 9.362mm Mauser) is a rimless, bottlenecked rifle cartridge designed in 1905 by German gunmaker Otto Bock. The crossbow is known to date back to Roman times and by 1000 A.D. was the favorite weapon on the European Continent. Item #34539 German Ideale System Martini Schuetzen Rifle. Barrels are normally up to 28" long, but are available up to 34" long. The stuck bullet is sown on the very right, it measures 5.52mm in diameter (before shooting it was 5.7mm) Next I tried a CCI .22 CB long (also 710 FPS), which also got stuck at about the same distance from the muzzle. Bore is excellen, #156A SWISS SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 7.5 rimmed cal., 33 12 oct. fluted bbl., under lever Martini action, checkered Schuetzen stock with large cheek rest, adjustable Schuetzen buttplate, Schuetzen le, GERMAN DRILLING, 16 X 16 X 8 X 57 JR, 26" bbls., hammerless, cocking indicators, lever safety, bbl. That position dictates a stock with a lot of drop and that is why all the German Schuetzen rifles have the "odd" looking stocks and also why you see the Peterson, Pope and Schoyen with similar shaped stocks. 32 & Net Price List, 1937 BSW (Berlin-Suhler Waffen) Catalog & Price List, Greifelt & Co. circa 1940-1942 Greif Bock-Gewehre, Greifelt & Co. circa 1940-1942 Greif Drillinge, Greifelt & Co. circa 1940-1942 Kipplauf, Bolt Action & Single Shot Rifles, Fredk W. Hollender- New York, Schuler Import, Franz Jger Heroldbchse & Herold Repetierbchse, Lancaster Arms Co., Infallible Single Trigger, Imman. 24", overall 42 1/4". Single shot full stock A. Franz Langenhan Kleinkaliberbuchse Single Shot Rifle .22LR VERY NICE!!! The load on the chart wasn't the one I went by, instead I considered the one marked on the rifle. It is the first on the market with full controls. & D. Best quality side plate 9.3 x 74 R. High power big game cal. Overall, this single shot rifle is in very good condition and it has a very good to excellent bore. Sold and very happy. Focus ring on scope is stuck. It's like you climb into the butt, climb into the trigger guard and you feel like you've just stepped into an orthopedic device with perfect ergonomics. The bore is excellent. Its on top, and moves forward with the thumb of either hand to release the cylinder. Below are more pictures off the rifle, which might help identifying the maker or the region it was made. Darryl, I had a chance to buy a very similar rifle from an Austrian maker some years ago -- and waited too long and missed it. by Pisgah Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:49 pm, Post Quite a few came home in duffel bags after WW2. . Click for more info Seller: William Larkin Moore & Sons Area Code: 480 $2,500.00 Zimmer Schuetzen - Rifle. by JerryB Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:36 pm, Post Begin by loading the schuetzen rifle. Base price: $3195 Price with unfinished wood: $2595 Click here for common options, or call us at 570-828-1669 for a quote. SAUER & SON KIPPLAUF UNDER-LEVER SINGLE SHOT RIFLE 6.5X58R (.25-35), C Grundig 20ga/6.5x58R Combo Octagon SLNE Kahles, Merkel Model K1 Premium 300 Winchester Magnum, "German 8.15X46Rmm Schutzen Rifle by August Jung (R32656), SIMON HEIM ENGRAVED GERMAN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, C. Stiegele Martini German Schtzen Rifle, R . It is possibly chambered in 9.3x47R but a chamber cast would be needed to confirm. In order that the reader may clearly understand the modes of determining the value of successful shots on this target, I append an extract from a programme of the above organization showing the order in which the single parts shall be shot off. The word "Schuetzen" is German and in this application refers to a breech-loading, singleshot rifle using a cartridge case to contain the primer and powder charge with cast or swaged lead bullets. bbl., DST, checkered stock with pewter forend cap, large Schuetzen buttplate, fancy spur trigger guard, original tang sight adjustabl, #1033A C. STEIGELE MARTINI GERMAN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 8:15 X 46, SN 95XX, 30 fluted bbl., made in 1938, bottom of bbl. They also have short LOP's so that your arm isn't extended way out. Some sources claim that it was once used to describe archers or more specifically crossbowmen. Front sights are typically hooded, and a large rear diopter sight is used to act as a sunshade, blinder and to aid in precision shooting. Americans used the 32-40 and in Germany it was the aforementioned 8.15 X 46R.which is easily made from 30-30 brass. The first time I ever heard of Schuetzen rifles it was an old article in THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN where they were covering the matches put on by the Coors Company. I try to stop in once a week to see what new gems they have acquired and on a recent trip, I saw an old Schuetzen rifle. A forum community dedicated to the great outdoors and hunting enthusiasts. Gewehr 98: Mauser-Werke various others 7.9257mm Mauser: Wehrmacht Waffen-SS: Standard German infantry rifle of World War I. by M. M. Wright Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:41 am, Post The cards they are printed on generally measure 5 1/2 inches square (14 mm). I never had much good luck it holding up. HAENEL ORIGINAL AYDT TAKEDOWN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, Simson & Co. Karabiner .22 Caliber Single Shot Rifle S/N 79481XX, Fredrich Langenhan Single Shot .22 LR **Made in mid 1920** Like new, Erma E36 Pre-War W.K. 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